Hippocampus - Comments on the DVD's

<body> <BODY> <P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=3><STRONG><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><IMG height=128 alt=DVD1 hspace=0 src="http://www.hippocampus-nl.com/afbeeldingen/tn_img1094.jpg" width=140 align=left border=0></SPAN></STRONG></FONT></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=3><STRONG>Comments on the 3 DVD's:</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=3><STRONG>Critical documentation on the LDR/Rollkur/Hyperflexion method of riding and training horses</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><A href="http://www.hippocampus-nl.com/afbeeldingen/briefdvd.pdf">Commenting letter to the DVD's of riders practising hyperflexion</A> </O:P></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P><STRONG><FONT size=3>Discussion groups dealing with this issue:</FONT></STRONG></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN><A href="http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=50054&page=10"><FONT size=2>http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=50054&page=10</FONT></A></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>Forums discussions on this topic Enkele discussies over Hyperflexion op internet/:<O:P></O:P></STRONG></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://www.cfjd.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl">http://www.cfjd.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://www.ffe.com/cgi-bin/yabb/">http://www.ffe.com/cgi-bin/yabb/</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://www.allege-ideal.com/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,37/func,view/id,10032/catid,3/lang,fr/">http://www.allege-ideal.com/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,37/func,view/id,10032/catid,3/lang,fr/</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/">http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum/</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/index.php">http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/index.php</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://www.bokt.nl/forums/">http://www.bokt.nl/forums/</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://www.fokt.nl/index.php">http://www.fokt.nl/index.php</A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClassicalDressage/?yguid=145232294">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClassicalDressage/?yguid=145232294</A></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><A href="http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=2428869&r=threadview&a=1&t=2841948">http://f3.webmart.de/f.cfm?id=2428869&r=threadview&a=1&t=2841948</A></SPAN></P><O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P> <P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P><STRONG>Comments on the videoscenes on Youtube</STRONG>:</P> <P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-cellspacing: 0cm" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-outline-level: 2"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Comments & Responses<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=eNZ59OQLhGQ></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/jirina2"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>jirina2</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Vrezelijk. Dit is top van dresuur? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=7dIzui5lxvo></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/tyrdrop"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>tyrdrop</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This person should never be allowed near a horse again. These practices need to stop, they make me sick. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=UnzECya2uyg></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Ilady"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Ilady</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Sorry but what do you want us to see? If she does this with a good hand and enough leg.It<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s nothing to worry about.Besides she don<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t do it a<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>ll the time,it<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s just to gymnastic the muscles. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=YDT0ur807wI></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Kampfschimmel"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Kampfschimmel</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Its awful, horrible and has nothing to do with really Dressage, the only meaning of this kind of riding is to break the will of the horse, its called learned helplessness, the horse learns, that he has no chance out and resigns. This has nothing to do with gymnastic, its only cruel. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=1_5VX8DM3Ow></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/vanjab"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>vanjab</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 month ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This has nothing to do with dressage. It is only used to break the horse´s will. Gymnastik is done in a different way, not with pulling and kicking and breaking the horse´s neck. It makes me sick! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=2Yn8g_PrZYo></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Arenalilla"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Arenalilla</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 weeks ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">awesome mov! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=hvnJ3FFgg2A></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 week ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">What do you mean, "with a good hand and enough leg?" I think you really mean, with enough CURB REIN and enough SPUR to force the horse forward. Are you familiar with the anatomy of the horse? Have you seen the compression of the vertebrae in the neck that this causes? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=kV2c9htGUBQ></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 week ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Meanwhile, observe how the horse can<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t step underneath himself and truly engage behind, and take a look at his forehand-he has no choice but to get heavier in front. Nothing to worry about? Only if you listen to the vet Anky pays to tell people it<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s ok. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=kXdS4DvFmP0></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 week ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Look at this clip of Philippe Karl riding piaffe and levade <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>make sure you click on view original size . Note how the horse<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s head is free, how he is NOT behind the bit, and look at the slack in both the curb and snaffle reins as the horse lifts his forehand off the ground. So you think Anky can do this?<BR>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3630150063986391480 &q=piaffe&hl=en <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=D1TFnOpylfo></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Leitha700"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Leitha700</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>13 hours ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I don<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t wanna know how does the horse feel with that style.. It<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s looking so ugly. It must hurt.<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">I hate that style. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-cellspacing: 0cm" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <H2 style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3>Comments & Responses<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></H2></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=uvMvqpDZ8No></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=1><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/thefragile"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT color=#0033cc size=1>thefragile</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN class=smalltext1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>3 weeks ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The part around 1min8 to 1min11 is pretty ugly... thanks for posting these videos, they<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>re an education <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=jJCsMfeWV-I></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=1><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT color=#0033cc size=1>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN class=smalltext1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 weeks ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">this is no way to train a horse. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=GF4DR_5q2lo></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=1><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/fionat2001"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT color=#0033cc size=1>fionat2001</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN class=smalltext1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 weeks ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The tail says it all <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSVmnHm9tQg&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-cellspacing: 0cm" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-outline-level: 2"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Comments & Responses<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/jirina2"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>jirina2</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Vreselijk. Dit is top van dressuur? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/tyrdrop"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>tyrdrop</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This person should never be allowed near a horse again. These practices need to stop, they make me sick. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Ilady"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Ilady</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Sorry but what do you want us to see? If she does this with a good hand and enough leg.It<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s nothing to worry about.Besides she don<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t do it a<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>ll the time,it<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s just to gymnastic the muscles. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Kampfschimmel"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Kampfschimmel</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Its awful, horrible and has nothing to do with realy Dressage, the only meaning of this kind of ridin is to break the will of the horse, its called learned helplessnes, the horse learns, that he has no chancé out and resigns. This has nothing to do with gymnastik, its only cruel. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/vanjab"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>vanjab</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 month ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This has nothing to do with dressage. It is only used to break the horse´s will. Gymnastik is done in a different way, not with pulling and kicking and breaking the horse´s neck. It makes me sick! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Arenalilla"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Arenalilla</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 weeks ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">awesome mov! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 week ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">What do you mean, "with a good hand and enough leg?" I think you really mean, with enough CURB REIN and enough SPUR to force the horse forward. Are you familiar with the anatomy of the horse? Have you seen the compression of the vertebrae in the neck that this causes? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 week ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Meanwhile, observe how the horse can<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t step underneath himself and truly engage behind, and take a look at his forehand-he has no choice but to get heavier in front. Nothing to worry about? Only if you listen to the vet Anky pays to tell people it<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s ok. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 week ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Look at this clip of Philippe Karl riding piaffe and levade <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>make sure you click on view original size . Note how the horse<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s head is free, how he is NOT behind the bit, and look at the slack in both the curb and snaffle reins as the horse lifts his forehand off the ground. So you think Anky can do this?<BR>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3630150063986391480 &q=piaffe&hl=en <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Leitha700"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Leitha700</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>13 hours ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I don<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t wanna know how does the horse feel with that style.. It<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s looking so ugly. It must hurt.<BR><BR>I hate that style. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YODFSUs8_zw&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=YODFSUs8_zw&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DYODFSUs8_zw%26mode%3Drelated%26search%3D"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>View All 11 Comments</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 103.68%; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-cellspacing: 0cm" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="103%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-outline-level: 2"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Comment on this video<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 1; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <H2 style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=3>Comments & Responses<o:p></o:p></FONT></SPAN></H2></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=Yeo04quipfA></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=1><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT color=#0033cc size=1>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN class=smalltext1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 weeks ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">between the curb rein and the spurs, he<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s got nowhere to go. cruel. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=Qs8jAUfz8iA></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=1><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/sieltjuh"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT color=#0033cc size=1>sieltjuh</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN class=smalltext1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>3 days ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Oh, come on...You don<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t come that far with cruelty! <BR>This are tophorses and Anky is a toprider! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=AgOQS7NtPj0></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=1><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT color=#0033cc size=1>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN class=smalltext1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>14 hours ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">that<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s a very naive statement. once upon a time it was legal for top jumper riders to use a practice called poling-ever heard of it? <BR>Study equine anatomy and take a look at how this "technique" affects the muscular and skeletal structures of the neck. oh, and learn how to read a horse<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s body language. also, notice how the horse can<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t fully engage behind and step underneath himself, and look at how heavy he gets on his forehand. Ask George Morris what he thinks of this, I have. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=NBX6wB86PqA></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=1><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pablicasso25"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT color=#0033cc size=1>pablicasso25</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN class=smalltext1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>14 hours ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">that<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s a very naive statement. once upon a time it was legal for top jumper riders to use a practice called poling-ever heard of it? <BR>Study equine anatomy and take a look at how this "technique" affects the muscular and skeletal structures of the neck. oh, and learn how to read a horse<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s body language. also, notice how the horse can<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t fully engage behind and step underneath himself, and look at how heavy he gets on his forehand. Ask George Morris what he thinks of this, I have. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-vYMKKyZM&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=1> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 6.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-cellspacing: 0cm" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-outline-level: 2"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Comments & Responses<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/video_response_upload?v=jyozYRj2oz0"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Post a Video Response</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyozYRj2oz0&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Post a text comment</SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=dLwgro5Uylc></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyozYRj2oz0&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/classicaleq"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>classicaleq</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Thanks for having the courage to spread the word and post these videos. Something has to happen soon, surely?! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyozYRj2oz0&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyozYRj2oz0&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=4wmmrdYAJU0></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyozYRj2oz0&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/vanjab"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>vanjab</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>1 month ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Anky, stay away from my stable, please. FOR EVER! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyozYRj2oz0&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyozYRj2oz0&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 103.68%; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-cellspacing: 0cm" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="103%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-outline-level: 2"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Comment on this video<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/video_response_upload?v=jyozYRj2oz0"><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Post a Video Response</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 1; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-outline-level: 2"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Comments & Responses<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/video_response_upload?v=J5pH5CEoZks"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Post a Video Response</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Post a text comment</SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=t7VQ1KlHOJQ></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Marytimes"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Marytimes</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">this is really neat, how did you get these behind the scenes videos? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=AxEopzW3NoA></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/jules183"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>jules183</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>3 days ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">By going to the publicly accessible warm-up arena and pointing a video camera at the rider??? <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=svoELBl6-4s></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Marytimes"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Marytimes</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>10 hours ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Haha oh sorry i was just curious, but actually i was just at the WEG this past week and i got a lot of footage of him and anky and a bunch of other riders in the warm-up too, so ill definitly post it! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5pH5CEoZks&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76hE5hp7syY&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Ilady"><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Ilady</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Dit vind ik een ander verhaal,hier zie je duidelijk wel iets wat niet oke is. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76hE5hp7syY&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76hE5hp7syY&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=iL3GjHtAgOY></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76hE5hp7syY&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Rosie999"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Rosie999</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 months ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">ja, heel duidelijk! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-cellspacing: 0cm" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-outline-level: 2"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Comments & Responses<o:p></o:p></SPAN></B></P></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/video_response_upload?v=QrX6jhkLpiI"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>Post a Video Response</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: right" align=right><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrX6jhkLpiI&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Post a text comment</SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=ZYwoxUnZgTE></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrX6jhkLpiI&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/pippa21"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>pippa21</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>4 weeks ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I dont know alot about dressage, but his neck is SO bent in some places, that cant be good. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrX6jhkLpiI&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; text-underline: none; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrX6jhkLpiI&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>  <o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=B8AlrFZJnVI></A><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrX6jhkLpiI&mode=related&search=#"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>. </SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.youtube.com/user/rachi123"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><FONT color=#0033cc>rachi123</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB>2 weeks ago <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">it<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>s disgusting and forced. this isn<st1:PersonName w:st="on">'</st1:PersonName>t what dressage is about!!! <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P> <P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P></P> <P></P> <DIV>Beste Mevrouw Thiel,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vanmiddag, na ontvangst van uw drie DVD's, heb ik ze meteen bekeken. </DIV> <DIV>Mijn reactie is dat ik het ronduit SCHOKKEND en gewoonweg AFSCHUWELIJK vind om naar te kijken; dat is toch geen 'gymnastiseren' of 'trainen' ! Was die Sjef Janssen maar bij het wielrennen gebleven, in dat keiharde geldwereldje zou hij veel beter gepast hebben dan om te werken met onschuldige dieren, want hij heeft blijkbaar totaal geen benul van de ware aard van paarden, wat voor dieren het zijn. Hij ziet ze blijkbaar alleen als automaten, met een start en stopknop - en natuurlijk als geldbron!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Inderdaad, nergens is er sprake van werkelijke communicatie tussen ruiter en paard, het straalt allemaal op een afdwingende manier uit van: "Ik ben de ruiter en de baas en jij zal naar me luisteren, kreng!" Het straalt allemaal zoveel agressie uit van de kant van de ruiters, maar daarmee ook angst (want agressie komt tenslotte voort uit de angst); het zijn allemaal erg angstige ruiters, die zo bang zijn dat ze de controle over dat sterke dier kwijt zullen raken! Het zijn typische 'mensen met paarden' (en met geld) - maar in geen enkel opzicht zijn het 'paardenmensen', die paarden in hun waarde kunnen en durven te laten. </DIV> <DIV>Maar omdat dergelijke ruiters niet echt communiceren en in evenwicht zitten met hun paard, hebben ze ook totaal geen gevoel voor wat er onder hen gebeurt, er is geen band, dus kunnen ze inderdaad ook met de meest onverwachte gedragingen van hun paard geconfronteerd worden (zoals Anky, die enige tijd geleden een zware val maakte van Joker - die we ook nooit meer gezien hebben daarna). </DIV> <DIV>Vandaar ook dat doorlopend alleen maar bezig zijn met de voorhand, ze zijn er finaal op gefixeerd. Maar zoals Steinbrecht al zei: "Alles wat je als ruiter achter het zadel doet, is dressuur, maar alles wat je vóór het zadel doet, is circus"!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Het is duidelijk dat ze dat Duitse, zeer effectieve en praktische systeem (in pyramidevorm, van ontspanning, via tact etc. naar uiteindelijk verzameling) volkomen naast zich neer hebben gelegd. Erger nog, ze willen zelfs geen ontspanning maar willen juist angst oproepen bij het dier, zodat het vanuit die gespannenheid zich fraaier toont aan de jury!!! En dan vinden dergelijke ruiters het nog gek ook dat paarden steeds vaker maagzweren en andere symptomen van stress krijgen!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ik kreeg met name bij Anky en Sjef, die Icthanos reden, kippenvel, zo erg vond ik het voor dat dier! Ben erg blij ook te horen dat hij zich er tegen verzet heeft zodat ze hem nu niet meer uitbrengen. Hij heeft blijkbaar meer karakter dan bijv. Krack of OOSeven en ik zou van dergelijke karakterloze hengsten dan ook geen veulen willen hebben. Maar dat ligt op zich natuurlijk niet aan die paarden maar aan de fokkers, die dergelijke 'automaten' fokken. Wel moet ik de fokkers toegeven dat ze zeer sterke paarden hebben gefokt; je zult dergelijke ruiterij als paard zijnde toch maar moeten zien vol te houden, zoals tachtig minuten op je voorhand lopen om los te rijden en daarna nog eens Grand Prix proef te moeten lopen, dan moet je toch hoeven, pezen en spieren van staal hebben!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ik hoop van harte het nog mee te maken dat dressuurSPORT (dus als wedstrijd) verboden wordt. Maar dat zal wel niet, want niemand in die commerciële, professionele paardenwereld heeft er belang bij om de wedstrijddressuur op te blazen.</DIV> <DIV>Toch ben ik erg blij dat u, ondanks alle tegenwerking van met name die wedstrijdruiters, toch doorgaat met het verspreiden van de nodige informatie over het LDR-rijden.</DIV> <DIV>Ik begrijp nu trouwens ook waarom Anky en Sjef hun 'methode' niet in een boek hebben samengevat of dat ze steeds maar zeggen dat het alleen geschikt is voor zeer ervaren ruiters - want er is helemaal geen methode, het is alleen maar slecht rijden! </DIV> <DIV>Wat mij betreft zou het het mooiste zijn als de discussie zich verplaatste naar de oorzaak van die LDR-ellende, namelijk de vraag of wedstrijdsport met dieren, met name met paarden, eigenlijk nog wel past in een samenleving, die zich beschaafd noemt. Voor mij staat het antwoord als een paal boven water: nee, want het dier is per definitie slachtoffer van de eerzucht van de ruiter. Het doel is dan namelijk niet meer het harmonieus rijden en het samen plezier hebben in de dingen die je samen doet, maar het winnen van prijzen. En dat gaat altijd ten koste van het paard.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Veel succes!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Met vriendelijke groeten,</DIV> <DIV>E.N.</DIV> <DIV>Ruinen</DIV> <DIV>  </DIV> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P></P> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt"></P>Dear Dr Thiel:<BR><BR>I appreciate your three DVDs. All the horses you show have ruined walks, and walk is "the mother of the gaits." If the walk is not at least maintained, the training is suspect. If the walk is ruined, the training is bankrupt. Perhaps you might go to my web site pages on injuries that are becoming more and more common in dressage horses: desmopathies in the nuchal ligament and even bone spurs between the first cervical vertebra and the skull. Take a look at Dr. Bingold<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s thermograph of a horse held in hyper flexion: the neck is so irritated that the bones can be seen through the skin! And thermography, as I am sure you are aware, gathers its data from the surface of the horse... <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt"><BR><A href="http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/dingosBreakfastClub/BioMech/BioMechRideContent.html"><FONT size=1>http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/dingosBreakfastClub/BioMech/BioMechRideContent.html</FONT></A><BR><A href="http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/dingosBreakfastClub/BioMech/BioMechonthebit3.html"><FONT size=1>http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/dingosBreakfastClub/BioMech/BioMechonthebit3.html</FONT></A></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt"><FONT size=1> </FONT>(injuries from rollkuer)<BR><BR>As a dressage judge (very junior in status, senior in experience), I am disturbed at what I see in the arena. I recently scribed for the whole FEI series of classes in a CDI***. Three horses stood on their hind legs, not just a "levade" position but absolutely vertical. Riders seemed unaware they were split seconds from death or serious injury from being crushed by a horse falling over backwards. Having seen the rollkuer warm ups (yes, since Nicole Uphoff and Rembrandt, it has spread internationally) and understanding the anatomy of breathing and connections within the horse that function in correct dressage, I understood the desperate reactions of the horses to brutal riding. In fact, the winner of the Grand Prix Special was the most brutal rider of all --- scoring a 65+%. I have personally ridden one of the horses he ruined: the poor creature had to be turned out to pasture because its whole neck was damaged. People ride how they are judged, as my mentor Dr Henri van Schaik used to say. It would seem that there is a vicious circle operating: the 5 judges during 3 days I scribed for had weary tones in their voices as they gave "6" for horses that were behind the vertical, short in the neck, croup high in extensions and flying changes... all material on your video. These international judges know perfectly well that they will not be asked back to international shows if they give "big name" riders the low scores they deserve. So the horrible riding is imitated by others, and the judges wearily give their scores... and the riding quality continues its downward spiral.<BR><BR>As someone who works with dressage horses daily, I never (repeat, <I>never</I>) find the need to do the hyper flexion that is winning in the ring. My horses are happy and eager to perform (you will see one of them performing free longe canter pirouettes on the web site as well as "forward, down, out" on free longe with natural head position). And I am continually called on to decontract horses that are worked in rollkuer and who are justifiably afraid of the contact. In fact, I do more than 99% of my work with my <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="horses in">horses in</ST1:PERSONNAME> forward, down, out (longe, free longe, riding). They know their work in collection: it is the foundation for collection that needs constant renewal. And how many riders have left their tests in the warm up (as shown on your DVD) because their minds are wrongly focused on illusions of what it takes to "win" rather than understanding the needs of their horses.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt"><BR><A href="http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/dingosBreakfastClub/BioMech/LongAndLow.html"><FONT size=1>http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/dingosBreakfastClub/BioMech/LongAndLow.html</FONT></A><BR><A href="http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/dingosBreakfastClub/BioMech/CantersCompared.html"><FONT size=1>http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/dingosBreakfastClub/BioMech/CantersCompared.html</FONT></A></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 35.4pt"><BR><BR>It is my opinion, based on 5 years of scribing at CDI***, 15 years of judging, and comparing what the ancients wrote with modern glossy magazine coverage, that dressage has lost its way. If this were a trivial matter, those of us who are concerned could be considered to be grumblers. But someone is going to die in the arena on a horse that has to choose between breathing or being ridden. As La Guériniérè says in <I>École de Cavalerie</I> (1769, my translation of his text):<BR><I>All sciences and arts have principles and rules, by means of which one makes discoveries leading to their improvement [perfection]. Horsemanship is the one art for which it seems one needs only practice. However, practice without true principles [as a guide] is nothing but routine, the fruit of which is a strained and uncertain performance, a false diamond which dazzles demi-connoisseurs who are more often impressed by the accomplishments of the horse than by the skills of the horseman. From this comes the reason for the small number of well-trained horses, and the lack of ability one sees at present in the majority of those who style themselves horsemen.</I><BR><BR>Thank you for the DVDs. Maybe there will be fewer demi-connoisseurs as a result. About the FEI doing something about the problem so that riding reality matches its pious rhetoric, well, time will tell.<BR><BR></SPAN>Dr. Nancy Nicholson<BR>Interdisciplinary Studies</FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><O:P><FONT size=2>  <P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P>Hello Ulrike !<BR><BR>I am a 34 yrs Old veterinarian here in Málaga ( just in the south coast, Andalucia, SPAIN).<BR>I work as equine clinician for nearly 10 years, and during my stage at university I have research and published about equine biomechanics of passage and effects of collection. Since child, I was a horse enthusiast as well, and since this age I always have been involved with riding and equestrianism, in all the aspects surrounding dressage and classical equestrianism.<BR><BR>I am happy surprised, because when I was at university we was a group of friends a little bit "equestrian-freakies" and used to trip every competition for recording in the WARMING UP arenas every horse that seems to us interesting, JUST you show me in your videos!. We have been always great "fanatics" of Spanish Riding School of Vienna and the Classican Equestrianism as source of the dressage as equestrian sport, at the same time we have been a bit sarcastic and critical with some aspect of competition and FEI rules... It is very surprising for me that a lot of the ideas, thougths and conversation we used to had at these times ( period between 1991 and 1997) are reviewed and expresed in your personal page and in your linked webpages.<BR>At these university times we used to joke using a paralelism between "The dark side of the force" of famous StarWars movies, when a good rider, used his skills and abilities for create "electric competition horses", now known as Rollkur trained horses. We have seen several riders ( Ignacio Rambla is one of the most notorious) that use this technique since a lot of time ago, in Spanish Riding School of Jerez, but now since Anky and some top competitors used, we have a real topic for "international discussion" ( Globalization is not as bad it seems ! :P). <BR>For me, Rollkur is like a Radical interpretation of Baucher´s Theories ( 1812), we can call them like Competitive NeoBaucherist, but sometimes Baucher and French equestrianism, (based on understanding the horse in "separates pieces" for unlock and combine according rider forces, like a mechanical device) is reivindicated for "Baroque way" riders that think about themselves to be the opposite side of Rollkur, but maybe are a soft Baucherists as well.<BR>Very Interesting the reflections about the use of the curb as a "jaw twich", and the term "electric". <BR>It is a fact that horses with a 2-3 degree of laryngeal hemiplegya, worsen dramatically their breath and increase inspiratory noise and general discomfort, when they are forced to maintain a high-flexed presentation of head and neck during collected canter, and they get a relief and improves the inspiratory noises, when they are allowed to extend and relax the poll.<BR><BR>But FEI big structures, you know, are interested in competition at all levels, and good riders, sometimes becomes young riders trainers, and people change the equestrian priorities for the "mathematical priorities".<BR>-Horses are "labeled" in order of his percentages in competition, they said " I need a 70% horse"  and nonsenses like that instead to try to improve harmony and horse body and movements, that is the aim of a real rider<BR>- Of course, if horses can be "labeled" in percentages, the price of the horses, commision for the brokers, and need of a "good trainer" ( that means the trainer that make his pupils to WIN competitions) and all the circle is completed...<BR><BR>All these creates a parallel fake equestrian world VERY DANGEROUS for novice riders and young riders, because the values of a real relationship beteween horse and rider, the value of a real equestrianism and the real classical horsemanships are said but never practiced in depth, because remain confused and covered with percentages, numbers and classifications as main priorities.<BR><BR>Ok!! there is a lot to say about this, and maybe for nothing, because horse world are VERY SMALL, and "three or four cats"( as we used to say in Spain) are not going to change the mentality of the 80% of horse users ( that DONT want to change, really)... and another World problems are more serious than horses, I always think...<BR><BR>It was a pleasure to reading your webpage and see your videos! Thank You and Good Luck, I will support the idea as we have been done since a lot of time, day by day...<BR><BR>Guillermo García Palma<BR>Veterinario Colegiado (812 Málaga)<BR><BR><BR>PD= I am doing research about equine (horses, mules and donkeys)  welfare, and maybe you can help me answering this since your point of view...<BR><BR>Imagine that you have to objetive measure with recordable data, the status of EQUINE WELFARE inside a population of horses...<BR>WHAT would be the parameters or measures, or data records you will use for a protocol that could be impressed in a form ??<BR><BR>Thank You very much, and see you !<BR><BR></P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I just want to say "go go go!!!"</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep up the extremely good work - be strong!</FONT> </P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>The only thing I - as an absolute amateur - personally can not find on many sites are "good idols" - who can we trust to watch, admire and dream about? </FONT></P> <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>With the warmest regards from a Swedish amateur // Guri</FONT> </P> <P> <P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P>I assume that you are German so I hope you can undersant English as I don't know much German.I just wanted to thank you for putting the vidoes of Rollkur for everyone to see. Here in Australia we've had some reports in Equestrian magazines but without seeing it it's difficult to really understand the concept.<BR>As far as I know the pratice of Rollkur isn't widely used in Australia and I hope it never does. I'm alway aiming for beauty and harmony is my riding and I can see non of that in the videos I've looked at. It makes me very sad for the horses and for the future of Dressage.<BR></P> <P>Karen.</P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Thank you so much for putting this information out there. I am a dressage instructor in <ST1:CITY w:st="on">Phoenix</ST1:CITY> <ST1:STATE w:st="on">AZ</ST1:STATE> and have trained in <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Germany</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION> for 2 years. I learned many things over the years I have studied dressage, but the two that most apparently address this training method are 1)you must consistently train your horse as you will ride him in competition, and 2)in dressage, if it doesn<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t look right, it isn<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t. I recently responded to an inquiry from one of my students:<BR><BR>"Hyperflexion is an extreme over flexion of the vertebrae in the neck, either down, to the right or to the left. It<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s supposed benefits are to supple the horse, however when it has been brought to its proponents attention that it is actually creating a balance which is decidedly opposite of that we are trying to create in dressage (we like to encourage the horse to bear more weight on his hindquarters as opposed to allowing, or in this case forcing, the horse to fall on the forehand) it was then said by the users of hyperflexion that this was a means of dealing with submission issues. And it would, as it creates a situation where the horse is out of balance and not allowed to see ahead of him because of his optical anatomy. The horse then becomes submissive because of his fear, and thus tense.....which is also something we are ultimately trying NOT to create in a dressage mount. So, you see why the <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>classisists<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME> might be down on it. I am, as what I have seen of it goes against everything I have been taught about dressage."<BR><BR>After seeing these video clips, it appears that I only scratched the surface in my response to my student. I have a difficult time visualizing how a less experienced rider than the ones that you have featured could possibly create more discomfort or throw his mount more off balance. I will be having all of my students review the videos you have posted on You Tube.<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">With Regards,<BR>Justine Wilson <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P></P></FONT></O:P> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Talking about horror, I have a copy of the DVD<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>made by Ulrike Thiel about Rollkur warm-up<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>technique. It is a very amazing viewing for<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>people who do not know what Rollkur is all<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>about. Really horrific.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I send all my gratitude to Ulrike to have made<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>this DVD accessible to all in order to educate<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>and inform.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Anyone who wish to see this DVD and who<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>lives in the area of Newbury in <ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Berkshire</ST1:PLACE> in<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">England</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">, can come and see the DVD at my<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>yard, Great Farm Stables, West-Woodhay,<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Newbury</SPAN></ST1:CITY><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">, <ST1:POSTALCODE w:st="on">RG20 0BS</ST1:POSTALCODE></SPAN></ST1:PLACE><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">. (07915 388 962)<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I am having the DVD copied and will have some<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>available for vets and judges.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>There will be a meeting of Xenophon taking place<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Switzerland</SPAN></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> on the 9th of June and would like<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>to ask the group to send me emails or even<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>better letters of complain about the Rollkur<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>technique that I can bring to the members.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>These letters can be addressed to Dr F. Sluyter,<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Federation Equestre Internationale in <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Lausanne</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>,<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Dr Sluyter is manager of the department<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>health, code of conduct etc.. within the FEI.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I would hand over your email or letter to<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Gerd Heuschmann and the foundation<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>member of this association to show our support<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>for their tremendous dedication against the<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>sophisticated torture applied to horses.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Or, alternatively, send an email directly to<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Dr Fritz Sluyter who is the manager of the<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>FEI re the Code of Conduct.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>His email address is f.sluyter@horsesport.org<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Please email him your comments about this horrific<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>method of training one of God's creatures.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Dressage has strict rules and the FEI rules<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>themselves stipulate that the horse's welfare<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>is a priority and this include the training techniques.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I include the following official FEI CODE OF<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>CONDUCT text :<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>THE FEI CODE OF CONDUCT<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>for the Welfare of the Horse<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>  1.. The Fédération Equestre Internationale (FEI) expects all those <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>involved in international equestrian sport to adhere to the FEI's Code of <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Conduct and to acknowledge and accept that at all times the welfare of the <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>horse must be paramount and must never be subordinated to competitive or <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>commercial influences.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>  2.. At all stages during the preparation and training of competition <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>horses, welfare must take precedence over all other demands. This includes <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>good horse management, training methods, farriery and tack, and <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>transportation.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>  3.. Horses and competitors must be fit, competent and in good health <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>before they are allowed to compete. This encompasses medication use, <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>surgical procedures that threaten welfare or safety, pregnancy in mares and <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>the misuse of aids.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>  4.. Events must not prejudice horse welfare. This involves paying careful <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>attention to the competition areas, ground surfaces, weather conditions, <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>stabling, site safety and fitness of the horse for onward travel after the <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>event.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>  5.. Every effort must be made to ensure that horses receive proper <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>attention after they have competed and that they are treated humanely when <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>their competition careers are over. This covers proper veterinary care, <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>competition injuries, euthanasia and retirement.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>  The FEI urges all involved with the sport to attain the highest levels of <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>education in their areas of expertise.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=1></FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2>Catherine  Iselin</FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><O:P><FONT size=2> <HR>  </FONT></O:P> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Sehr verehrte Frau Thiel,<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Anbei eine Abhandlung von dem Bericht von Herrn v. Ziegner, der durch meine Vermittlung in der Dressage Today erschienen ist. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Der gleiche Bericht wurde von dem Ultimate Dressage Bulletin Board mit großem Interesse aufgegriffen und dabattiert. Auch ich schrieb meine Meinung darüber, die ich an Sie weiter gebe. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Wir müssen alle zusammen halten, damit diese “Zwangsjackenreiterei”, wie es Herr v. Ziegner trefflich bezeichnet, nicht noch mehr unsere armen Pferde quält.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Walter Zettl<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 35.4pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE">P.S. Hier ist der Weg wie Sie in das Bulletin Board kommen können: </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US"><A title=http://www.ultimatedressage.com/ href="http://www.ultimatedressage.com/"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE">www.ultimatedressage.com</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"> – click on “Forums” – click on “Dressage Training & Instructions” – click on “Albrecht von Ziegner’s Opionion”<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT size=2>Thank you, Kasette, for posting Col. von Ziegner’s<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>opinion .</FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT size=2>Col. von Ziegner asked me to try to get his response to “The Workshop in <ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Lausanne</ST1:CITY></ST1:PLACE>” published in the Dressage Today. After I read his response, I was happy to offer it to the DT, and they immediately agreed to publish it. </FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT size=2>Col. von Ziegner is an old friend of mine from many years ago. He is also an advocate of classical dressage, like me and many of the BB-friends, as well as of the new Xenophon Gesellschaft. He was one of the founders. They are against the “Zwangsjackenreiterei”. Col. von Ziegner is 84 years old, is still very active in teaching and riding. His remarks touched my soul. </FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT size=2>It is incredible that these people, who are at the head of the FEI, are allowing this kind of riding. One should question their knowledge of horsemanship. Should not their priority be the well-being of the horse? What did they do about the protection of the horses at <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Lausanne</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>? All they did was create a new word for the Zwangsjackenreiterei – “Hyperflexion of the neck”, and which can only be used by “top” riders. Someone please tell me what is correct about this new riding style? By the way, under Baucher, we already experienced a similar type of riding. The horses were tortured, and they became soulless creatures. </FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT size=2>As a result of force riding, the horses hardly stays still, they are very tense, and they do not do a correct walk or no walk at all. One rider (whose horse does not do a walk at all anymore because he is tense and frightened), made the suggestion to take the walk out of the higher classes of dressage. Why not then take everything with which they might have trouble out? Like a correct collecting trot? The “hyperflexion of the neck” horse does a kind of passage. In the medium and extended trot, the horse throws his front legs unnaturally high, and therefore the horse only takes very short steps with his hind legs to balance himself, and is not covering any ground. It takes half an hour to get across the diagonal! The canter is too short and stiff, and during flying changes, the horse swings to the left and to the right, due to too much leg moving to the back. The pirouettes are 4-beat, because the rules require them to be as small as possible. We have to change the rules to make them bigger so that the horse is able perform them in a correct 3-beat canter. In the piaffe one does not see any forward movement because of force used in the training: too strong hand and leg (spurs) aids. To stay balanced the horse has to cross the front legs or swing to the left and right side. Most of the time, the horse is too short through the neck, and escapes the aids. </FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT size=2>The three gaits should never lose their naturalness, but with hyperflexion of the neck, what is left? Those poor horses are not “gymnastized” to make them physically and mentally stronger, but are trained mechanically to perform a certain test and then they feel they are in a “Zwangsjacke” (straightjacket). </FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><BR style="PAGE-BREAK-BEFORE: always" clear=all><FONT size=2></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT size=2>Please keep up the fight for the classical (humane) training of our horses. They will be thankful and show us their appreciation through their trust and devotion.</FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><FONT size=2>P.S. A short time ago, Dr. Ulrike Thiel got in contact with me. She has a small institute in <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Holland</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> which researches the training of dressage horses and its effects. She heard of me through my German edition of “Dressage in Harmony”. By reading my book she recognized my philosophy about classical training. I have to admit that this lady left a big impression on me, as she does in <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Holland</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> (the lion’s den of the Zwangsjackenreiterei) fighting this type of riding. In the meantime, she sent me three DVD’s which show training in the warm-up ring with hyperflexion of the neck. When she asked Anke and Sjef to publish them, they threatened her with a lawsuit.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>If their training is humane, why would they prohibit her showing those DVD’s? If your are interested in learning more about her and her work, here is her website: <A href="http://www.hippocampus-nl.com">www.hippocampus-nl.com</A>.</FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"> <TABLE class=MsoNormalTable style="WIDTH: 100%; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-cellspacing: 0cm" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 0; mso-yfti-firstrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; WIDTH: 100%; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width="100%"> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4908684#4908684"><SPAN style="COLOR: #006699; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><V:SHAPETYPE id=_x0000_t75 stroked="f" filled="f" path="m@4@5l@4@11@9@11@9@5xe" o:preferrelative="t" o:spt="75" coordsize="21600,21600"><V:STROKE joinstyle="miter"></V:STROKE><V:FORMULAS><V:F eqn="if lineDrawn pixelLineWidth 0"></V:F><V:F eqn="sum @0 1 0"></V:F><V:F eqn="sum 0 0 @1"></V:F><V:F eqn="prod @2 1 2"></V:F><V:F eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelWidth"></V:F><V:F eqn="prod @3 21600 pixelHeight"></V:F><V:F eqn="sum @0 0 1"></V:F><V:F eqn="prod @6 1 2"></V:F><V:F eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelWidth"></V:F><V:F eqn="sum @8 21600 0"></V:F><V:F eqn="prod @7 21600 pixelHeight"></V:F><V:F eqn="sum @10 21600 0"></V:F></V:FORMULAS><V:PATH o:connecttype="rect" gradientshapeok="t" o:extrusionok="f"></V:PATH><O:LOCK aspectratio="t" v:ext="edit"></O:LOCK></V:SHAPETYPE><V:SHAPE id=_x0000_i1028 style="WIDTH: 9pt; HEIGHT: 6.75pt" o:button="t" alt="Post" type="#_x0000_t75"><V:IMAGEDATA o:href="http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\ULRIKE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\05\clip_image001.gif"></V:IMAGEDATA></V:SHAPE></SPAN></A><FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Posted: 28 May 2006 01:46    Post subject: <O:P></O:P></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P></TD> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" vAlign=top noWrap> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: black"><A href="http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/posting.php?mode=quote&p=4908684"><SPAN style="COLOR: #006699; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><V:SHAPE id=_x0000_i1026 style="WIDTH: 44.25pt; HEIGHT: 13.5pt" o:button="t" alt="Reply with quote" type="#_x0000_t75"><V:IMAGEDATA o:href="http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_quote.gif" src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\ULRIKE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\05\clip_image002.gif"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT></V:IMAGEDATA></V:SHAPE></SPAN></A><A href="http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/posting.php?mode=editpost&p=4908684"><SPAN style="COLOR: #006699; TEXT-DECORATION: none; text-underline: none"><V:SHAPE id=_x0000_i1027 style="WIDTH: 44.25pt; HEIGHT: 13.5pt" o:button="t" alt="Edit/Delete this post" type="#_x0000_t75"><V:IMAGEDATA o:href="http://www.ultimatedressage.com/forums/templates/subSilver/images/lang_english/icon_edit.gif" src="file:///C:\DOCUME~1\ULRIKE~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\msohtml1\05\clip_image003.gif"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT></V:IMAGEDATA></V:SHAPE></SPAN></A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></TD></TR> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 1"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" colSpan=2> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: black"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3> <HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></TD></TR> <TR style="mso-yfti-irow: 2; mso-yfti-lastrow: yes"> <TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #e0dfe3; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: #e0dfe3; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #e0dfe3; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" colSpan=2> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US style="COLOR: black"><FONT size=2>Thank you, Kasette, for posting Col. von Ziegner’s opinion . <BR>Col. von Ziegner asked me to try to get his response to “The Workshop in <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Lausanne</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>” published in the Dressage Today. After I read his response, I was happy to offer it to the DT, and they immediately agreed to publish it. <BR><BR>Col. von Ziegner is an old friend of mine from many years ago. He is also an advocate of classical dressage, like me and many of the BB-friends, as well as of the new Xenophon Gesellschaft. He was one of the founders. They are against the “Zwangsjackenreiterei”. Col. von Ziegner is 84 years old, is still very active in teaching and riding. His remarks touched my soul. <BR><BR>It is incredible that these people, who are at the head of the FEI, are allowing this kind of riding. One should question their knowledge of horsemanship. Should not their priority be the well-being of the horse? What did they do about the protection of the horses at <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Lausanne</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>? All they did was create a new word for the Zwangsjackenreiterei – “Hyperflexion of the neck”, and which can only be used by “top” riders. Someone please tell me what is correct about this new riding style? By the way, under Baucher, we already experienced a similar type of riding. The horses were tortured, and they became soulless creatures. <BR><BR>As a result of force riding, the horses hardly stays still, they are very tense, and they do not do a correct walk or no walk at all. One rider (whose horse does not do a walk at all anymore because he is tense and frightened), made the suggestion to take the walk out of the higher classes of dressage. Why not then take everything with which they might have trouble out? Like a correct collecting trot? The “hyperflexion of the neck” horse does a kind of passage. In the medium and extended trot, the horse throws his front legs unnaturally high, and therefore the horse only takes very short steps with his hind legs to balance himself, and is not covering any ground. It takes half an hour to get across the diagonal! The canter is too short and stiff, and during flying changes, the horse swings to the left and to the right, due to too much leg moving to the back. The pirouettes are 4-beat, because the rules require them to be as small as possible. We have to change the rules to make them bigger so that the horse is able perform them in a correct 3-beat canter. In the piaffe one does not see any forward movement because of force used in the training: too strong hand and leg (spurs) aids. To stay balanced the horse has to cross the front legs or swing to the left and right side. Most of the time, the horse is too short through the neck, and escapes the aids. <BR><BR>The three gaits should never lose their naturalness, but with hyperflexion of the neck, what is left? Those poor horses are not “gymnastized” to make them physically and mentally stronger, but are trained mechanically to perform a certain test and then they feel they are in a “Zwangsjacke” (straightjacket). <BR><BR>Please keep up the fight for the classical (humane) training of our horses. They will be thankful and show us their appreciation through their trust and devotion. <BR><BR>P.S. A short time ago, Dr. Ulrike Thiel got in contact with me. She has a small institute in <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Holland</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> which researches the training of dressage horses and its effects. She heard of me through my German edition of “Dressage in Harmony”. By reading my book she recognized my philosophy about classical training. I have to admit that this lady left a big impression on me, as she does in <ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Holland</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> (the lion’s den of the Zwangsjackenreiterei) fighting this type of riding. In the meantime, she sent me three DVD’s which show training in the warm-up ring with hyperflexion of the neck. When she asked Anke and Sjef to publish them, they threatened her with a lawsuit. If their training is humane, why would they prohibit her showing those DVD’s? If your are interested in learning more about her and her work, here is her website: </FONT><A href="http://www.hippocampus-nl.com./" target=_blank><SPAN style="COLOR: #006699"><FONT size=2>www.hippocampus-nl.com.</FONT></SPAN></A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US><O:P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>  <HR> </FONT></O:P></SPAN> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">My perception of rollkur/zwangsjacke issue:<BR><BR>Rollkur and riding the horse behind the vertical have become widely accepted in the dressage competition community and there are those who would like any further discussion on rollkur to go away but as long as rollkur is promoted as ‘dressage’ training the controversy will continue. It’s not a matter of argumentativeness or close mindedness. There are valid reasons why many supporters of the Equestrian Art can not accept horses being ridden behind the vertical as dressage:<BR><BR>• The horse’s natural head and neck position express the horse’s balance (or imbalance) or discomfort. Riding the horse in a forced frame takes away the horse’s voice.<BR><BR>• Either the horse must use incorrect neck muscles in order to hold its face behind the vertical or the rider must actively hold the horse behind the vertical. Either way, undue tension is created.<BR><BR>• Riding the horse behind the vertical constrains the horse<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s neck, restricts its movements, distorts its gaits and is in direct conflict with the horse’s nature.<BR><BR>• Riding the horse behind the vertical makes it impossible for the horse to use it haunches correctly and find the relaxation that enables the horse to enjoy its freedom of movement and independent balance.<BR><BR>• When the horse’s face is behind the vertical the horse can not carry its head and neck in balance over its shoulders so that the forehand can be efficiently lifted and carried with the assistance of the haunches. <BR><BR>• The thrusting energy of the hind legs does not travel through to the poll. The energy only makes it to the area in the neck where the vertebra are ‘broken’, at which point the energy is stifled by the head and remaining neck that are hanging downward heavily off the front end of the horse. The weight of the already overburdened forehand is increased.<BR><BR>The purpose of the Equestrian Art is to harmoniously develop the physique and ability of the horse by improving the rhythm and purity of its gaits to the point where the horse relaxes and naturally reaches forward with its whole spine to offer the rider a soft elastic contact with the bit, thereby enabling the rider to refine the horse’s balance and energy to collection. It’s improving the horse’s balance that not only makes the horse more enjoyable to ride, it can help extend its useful and pain free life. Keep in mind that the high airs above the ground – the display of ultimate refinement of balance and energy – don’t require extreme ‘stretching’. The classical principles that the art is based on were not arrived at as a matter of personal taste. They were derived from the laws of balance and behavior science, with clear objectives in mind. Balance is a matter of physics and can not be influenced by personal preference.<BR><BR>It doesn’t take an expert to see that even the ‘top’ horses who have been trained behind the vertical or with rollkur (Albrecht von Ziegner<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s uses the fitting term, “zwangsjacke”), exhibit increased weight on the forehand, distorted gaits, tension, false head sets, lack of throughness and imbalance, all of which inhibit engagement. In essence, riding the horse behind the vertical produces the opposite effect of what the Equestrian Art sets out to accomplish. I see the focus on rollkur as a distraction created to take attention away from the heart of the issue, which is that horses, performing fundamentally incorrect work by classical standards, are being highly rewarded in competition.<BR><BR>The FEI instituted the International Dressage Event in order to protect the Equestrian Art from the abuses to which it can be exposed and to preserve the Art in the purity of its principles. Either the FEI will uphold the enduring classical principles of dressage or it won’t. The development of the sport at the expense of its principles can not, in all honesty, be considered ‘development’ of the sport of Dressage. It is the development of another riding style and ought to be officially recognized as such.<BR><BR>If the FEI is going to offer Dressage in competition then the FEI owes it to it’s the equestrian community to carefully select judges who understand and uncompromisingly uphold the classical Art in the purity of its principles and who will recognize and reward correctly working balanced horses.<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><A href="http://www.ridingart.com/visual-points.htm" target=_blank><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT face=Verdana size=1>http://www.ridingart.com/visual-points.htm</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=DE style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: DE"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"><A href="http://www.ridingart.com/balance.htm" target=_blank><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT face=Verdana size=1>http://www.ridingart.com/balance.htm</FONT></SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN lang=DE style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: DE"><BR><BR><FONT size=2>Tonja Dausend</FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2> <HR> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>dieblauereiterin (4 hours ago) <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>this is a horror. thank you for posting this. i think every horse person should watch this. i literally could not finish watching it bc i started to feel sick and get very upset. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>(reply to this)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">   </SPAN>(remove comment)<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2>  <HR> </FONT></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Thank you SO much for exposing rollkur for what it really is!! I have HATED the practice or "training method" since I first saw it used, and I hate to see people who continue to abuse their <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="horses in">horses in</ST1:PERSONNAME> this way rewarded (With WORLD RECORD SCORES) for using it!!! <BR><BR>I will be bookmarking your page, please keep up the good work!!<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">*hugs*<BR>Jamie from Texas<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> <HR> </FONT></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">New Comment Posted to video hyperflexion 7<BR>The comment is:<BR>Thanks for having the courage to spread the word and post these videos. </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Something has to happen soon, surely?! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> <HR>  </FONT></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Hallo Ulrike, <BR>heel goed idee op deze manier openbaar maken. Er is echter een probleem. Veel mensen weten niet dat dit slecht is, ze weten niet hoe een GOEDE warming up zou moeten kunnen uitzien. <BR>Ik zou aanraden de 2 korte opnames in een video plaatsen als vergelijking; bijvoorbeel van piaffe, waarbij een paard met rollkur werd getraind -dus achterbenen wijd en springend en met hoge achterhand, en een andere paard klassiek - dus verzameld en recht.<BR>Ik bedoel: korte stuk (5-10 sec) met zelfde beweging van zelfde kant ( een rollkur andere klassiek) en meerdere voorbeelden achter elkaar op een video.<BR>Mensen moeten kunnen leren zien WAT de resultaat is van deze training . (Overdrijven beweging, op voorhand en achter teugel.<BR>Veel kracht gewenst en ga zo door!!<BR>jirina<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2>  <HR> </FONT></O:P></SPAN> <P></P><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> <DIV>Beste Ulrieke Thiel,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wilt u mij de prijs laten weten van de DVD over de Rollkürmethode?</DIV> <DIV>Dit n.a.v. het artikeltje hierover in de Bit.</DIV> <DIV>Overigens hadden wij enige tijd geleden emailcontact, ook over ditzelfde onderwerp. U stuurde mij toen uw bijzonder heldere reactie aan dhr. Rosie van het blad De Strengen, over laag en rond rijden. Jammer genoeg is dit blijkbaar niet gepubliceerd, maar toen ik het laatst weer eens doorlas, viel me op dat het nog steeds niets van z'n actualiteit verloren heeft. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ik vind het nog steeds fantastisch wat u doet, om door ARGUMENTEN duidelijk te maken dat de Hyperflexionmethode (zoals het nu blijkbaar genoemd wordt) niet goed voor een paard is, noch fysiek, noch psychisch. </DIV> <DIV>Ik lees zoveel als ik te pakken kan krijgen over dit onderwerp, maar het ergert me steeds weer opnieuw dat er zo weinig echt met argumenten op wordt ingegaan, met name door de voorstanders. Want dat een paar dierenartsen zeggen dat ze geen afwijkingen aan de nek van de betrokken paarden hebben kunnen vinden, zegt natuurlijk niets. </DIV> <DIV>Bovendien: WAT is er dan zo goed aan een dergelijke methode, welke voordelen levert het op? </DIV> <DIV>Daarbij komt: Ik heb nog nooit antwoord op de vraag kunnen krijgen, wat nu eigenlijk het verschil is met het rijden met een slofteugel? Want krijg je in beide gevallen niet hetzelfde silhouet van het paard te zien? Maar ja, een zichzelf respecterende dressuurruiter wil zich natuurlijk nooit laten zien met een slofteugel, want dat is volgens hen slechts een methode voor die rauwdauwers van springruiters!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jammer is dat een van de grootste aanhangers van de Rollkür, publieksidool Anky is, die door de massa zo ongeveer heilig verklaard is. Dus iedereen die kritiek op haar manier van rijden heeft, wordt meteen jaloezie verweten en dit feit staat ook een open discussie in de weg.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ik wens u in ieder geval opnieuw veel succes met uw 'kruistocht' tegen de Rollkür en wacht uw reactie graag af!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Met vriendelijke groeten,</DIV> <DIV>Erna N.</DIV> <DIV>Ruinen</DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"> <HR> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Comments <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Rollkur<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Chianti on 2006-06-01 21:50:10<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am sitting here crying from the pain I feel that these pictures of horses ridden in rollkur portray. I did not even manage to look at all the photos as the pain I feel is too overwhelming. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">What has our beautiful sport of dressage come to??!!!?? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The horses' eyes say it all. There is no need for proof, no need for research, just a look into the horses' souls is all you need to know that this is a fundamentally wrong approach to training. We are failing to fulfill our biggest responsibility in riding: to always put the horse's welfare first! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">You will not see me watch nor support any international competition until the FEI has taken a clear stand on this issue. It is long overdue! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Simone <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><ST1:STATE w:st="on"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">British Columbia</SPAN></ST1:STATE><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">, <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Canada</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Ban Rollkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Cathy on 2006-06-02 03:03:12<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Actually why should we even have to discuss banning it? Why would any sensible horse person decide that it's ok? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Cathy</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by BridgetL on 2006-06-02 06:15:42<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">In the <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">U.S.</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>, tail gingering, tail deadening and foot soring once were status quo. But people spoke up and now it is illegal. Let's do the same thing with rollkur. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Written by Funky MeerKAT on 2006-06-02 07:47:40<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">How can anyone look into the eyes of those horses and say that there is nothing wrong? They look trapped, caged, pained, angry... dead.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by hmarcantoni on 2006-06-02 08:06:09<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">FEI has failed to keep dressage in accordance with classical principles and dressage became some bad riding. It's time to stop to participate to this cruel absurdity.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by maverick on 2006-06-02 08:32:25<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">How can the FEI condone this training method that produces horses so far removed from the principles and guidelines set out in it's own rules? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">How can people watch this & say it is OK for horses to be ridden this way? Where is the Harmony & Lightness in Rollkur? These are indeed dark days for the art of dressage.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Alison on 2006-06-02 14:19:54<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I find it impossible to comprehend that anyone could look at the pictures and videos of <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="horses in">horses in</ST1:PERSONNAME> the rollkur positions and think it could be OK to do that. I showed this to totally non-horsey people and they thought it was horrible. Just wait until animal rights people take it up as a cause. We may live to see dressage banned entirely if this is not stopped. Remember what happened to fox hunting. . . . <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by nix on 2006-06-02 18:57:50<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">How can the FEI not ban what is no less than abuse? These horses are yanked into unnatural positions which without a doubt will cause muscular damage and compromise breathing. You only have to look at their dull, dead eyes to see that the horses' spirits are broken too. There is nothing harmonious or beautiful in this sort of "competition" training.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Written by planete on 2006-06-02 19:55:23<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I look at these pictures and I do not see respect for the horse, I see an unflinching determination to force the horse to the will of the rider by any means. Even if it does no lasting physical damage (and it probably does), should not any rider be ashamed to use such rough riding to be successful? There is no partnership, no beauty and no art in this kind of riding and rewarding it is a crime against the horse. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by ray on 2006-06-02 19:57:10<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Simply cruelty. There is no way around that. There can never be justifcation for cruelty. There can never be harmony with this outright cruelty, even with such a giving creature. These "riders'" should be prosecuted. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It's sadistic to enjoy harming these beautiful animals. Whats wrong with correct riding? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">If the FEI will disaprove of this, more riders will learn to ride effectively, peacefully and the end result will be many much more beautiful pairs worth competing against. we can save the art as a sport yet!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Lucia on 2006-06-02 20:50:08<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Good Grief what can you say? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I fail to see the actual point of the practice of 'Rollkur', moreover the pictures show unhappy tense horses with riders forcing them into an unnatural and tense outline - hardly the picture of elegance and harmony dressage riders should surely be striving for? I cannot understand why this is still considered acceptable? Goodness knows the long term effects of this forced position on the horse, both physically and mentally. I am humbled that these horses are so generous as to be trying their best to do what is being asked of them. If this is what 'dressage' is about (it certainly wasn't when I began riding years ago!) I think I'll give it a miss tthankyou, and will continue to do my utmost to ride with consideration for my horses welfare whether it gets me placed or not...its not all about the ribbons as someone once said. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">So sad. </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Lucinda<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by kharakterc on 2006-06-02 21:20:42<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Do we really need to do "research" to know that Rollkeur is inhumane, injurious, and disrespectful to thebody and soul of the animal. Is that the result we want? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This is not beauty, partnership, or any quality I strive for in my dressage journey. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">So terribly sad and wrong!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> <HR>  </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>Ban Rolkur - now!<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Teddysmum on 2006-06-02 21:51:52<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">How can the FEI allow this practice? These pictures clearly show brutality, ugliness and cruelty. Hardly the image that dressage is expected to convey. These riders and the FEI should be utterly ashamed.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Stop the madness<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by krosskopf on 2006-06-02 23:57:18<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">My heart aches for the horses that must endure life at the hands of these selfish riders. It is shameful that this is allowed anywhere near a sanctioned event or any event for that matter. We must speak for theses precious forgiving animals and stop the madness, now!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> This is barbaric<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by sueru on 2006-06-03 00:16:18<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Anyone who knows anything about riding and horse biomechanics must know this is wrong, cruel and should be banned. The damage done to these horses' muscles and ligaments will be severe and permanent. This has NO place in equestrianism, let alone sport. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Speechless<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by luvs2ride1979 on 2006-06-03 05:27:12<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The horses all look hollow in the back and strung out behind. What saddens me is knowing that the JUDGES are who is making this problem worse. If judge would not be placing these horses who have fancy front end movement, but are lacking everywhere else, than this "training method" would not be popular or "effective". Very sad indeed!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Straight Jacket<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="R. van Kralingen">R. van Kralingen</ST1:PERSONNAME> on 2006-06-03 07:19:05<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Ashamed to live in <ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Holland</ST1:CITY></ST1:PLACE>, 'Home of Rollkur' Why does the FEI keep changing the rules to accomodate this way of riding. Please lets get back to respect, balance and honest, classical rules.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> <HR> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>straight jacket<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by tricia osborne on 2006-06-03 08:21:12<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">My husband, who has never seen a photo nor heard of rolkur has just walked in while I was looking at the photos and has gasped in horror. He's not the least bit interested in any explanation as to why anyone would do this to an animal - it's just plain cruel. You don't need to know anything about horses or be any sort of expert to know this is not right. His view will be the view of every non-horse person out there.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> No more reward for forceful riding!<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by philippetemp on 2006-06-03 08:35:45<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Rollkur is not a method of dressage, it's a mean to win awards. It's a matter of competition, not education; so, if judges begin to heavily underscore any sign of forceful riding, rollkur will disappear. Forbidding flash and crank nosebands, verifying the tightness of the chin strap and of the noseband before the test would make obvious any jaw abuse, and would be easy to set on.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P>  <HR> </O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>In absolute disgust!!<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by gypsycobfan on 2006-06-03 10:10:38<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am appauled to see that this is still being allowed, i have spoken with many freinds about this and a few of us ride dressage but would never ever put our horses through the pain that i see in these pictures! I see that the faces of the riders are blanked out, they should be show and named and shamed for doing such a barbaric practice, these people do not care for horses at all,they are all about the money they hope to gain, in each picture i see a horse straining its neck so much it looks as if its going to snap,also i can see many horses gasping for breath,how can the FEI allow this to happen,surely they can see the cruelty, if they do not then they should be banned and a new set of judges etc be installed, <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">BAN THIS NOW! FOREVER and any person seen to ride like this has no heart at all for themselves or their horses<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Is winning really THAT important?!!<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Melinda on 2006-06-03 13:55:04<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Those horses are crying. How can anyone not see that, especially the top level riders? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">FEI, for heaven's sake, get some guts and do your job.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> what has happened to dressage<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by mbm on 2006-06-03 18:24:09<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">when the topriders use a method that is clearly abusive and ugly and that does not produce anything ressembling what dressage should be. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am appalled that the FEI judges would reward these methods by overlooking clear imbalance, overtempo, lack of engagement etc. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">If *i* can see these faults why cant the FEI judges? is the W\"WOW"factor so important that the FEI is willing to throw away the tenants of correct dressage? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Please start rewarding the horses that show clear collection and engagement. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Stop rewarding Rollkur and it will stop being used. </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> That is the most disgusting thing I have<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by rebel rach on 2006-06-03 20:15:12<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am sitting at my computer feeling sick to the bone, how dare these 'top' RIDERS abuse their horses. Dressage is supposed to be beautiful, not forced and ugly like those pictures illustrate. Never have i seen a horse so forced, and in a way so confused and frightened. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">WHY THE F**K are the FEI letting this happen. It makes me sick. Top competition riders are supposed to be role models. Enough inexpirienced idiots use it as it is, this is adding to the fire. Those horses undoubtedly are going to expirience pain, health, breathing problems. In my opinion any one who puts an animal under this much stress should be shot!!! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am appauled that the FEI are acting like this and allowing it. If they were doing their job, they would wake up and look at the pain and stress these poor animals are put under. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">For god's sake, it's good to ride on the bit, but definitely not behind it. This issue winds me up so much it makes me want to cry. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Those animals look overworked and sad. They look like they're crying. Dressage is giving itself a bad name by the FEI allowing this. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I would willingly take on any 'TOP GRAND PRIX' rider who uses this technique... for god's sake i would take on 'ANKY' if i'd had to. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">SURELY EVERY ONE CAN SEE THIS NEEDS TO STOP, THESE ANIMALS ARE IN PAIN!!!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Stop the madness!<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by perrykins on 2006-06-03 21:10:31<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The pictures brought me to tears. FEI members, please stop the madness. Ban the use of Rollkur in competitions, on the showgrounds, in warm-ups--everywhere!! STOP REWARDING riders with high score marks--the end result DOES NOT justify the means. Do this: judge a show with your chin tucked onto your chest, and lift your eyes upward so you can try to see. Stay that way for an hour or two. Maybe then you can empathize with the horses!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Stop the cruelty<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by cwimages on 2006-06-03 21:13:36<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Please put a ban on this cruel and inhumane practice. USDF and USEF should be ashamed to allow it to happen in the warm up arenas of its shows. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> <HR> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>it must stop<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by rebel rach on 2006-06-03 22:04:59<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">this is so inhumane, and it gives dressage an awful name. it has to stop. these horses want to please their riders, and the riders want to abuse a beautiful trusting animal. i hate it and it really makes me want to cry. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">How many more horses must be ridden like this??? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">What gives anyone the right to abuse an animal. like i said anyone who rides like that and advocates the use of Rollkur should be shot.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Alexis<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by alexishaines on 2006-06-03 22:27:05<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Words fail me. These noble creatures allow us the honour of sitting on their backs and this is how they are repaid? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This isn't warming up it is simply abuse. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">What happened to the 'happy athlete'? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Alexis Haines<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P>  <HR> </O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>Now I Ride Western<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Victoriacummings on 2006-06-04 01:34:31<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I rode English for 20 years. Then, I learned about a relaxed rein and a natural head-set. My two Quarter Horses are magically easy to ride - they feel almost no pressure on their mouths - I think what I want them to do, and they respond. Why would anyone want to abuse these wise, loyal companions in such a sadistic way? This is not a partnership - it is dominance - full of human ego and never considering what is best for the horse. How can anyone who loves horses consider this kind of treatment to be acceptable? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Victoria Cummings</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Written by Funky MeerKAT on 2006-06-04 02:29:58<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I always thought the point of dressage as a sport was to show where you are in your training and to get feedback for improvement. ie, you present to the judge and onlookers the way that you train your horse and how you are going. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">But that is nolonger what happens, they train one way and show another. If their training is so good, why do they not show off what they can do in the ring? Why not make their own sport and be marked on what they are really doing? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Mind you the sport would very quickly be banned. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">But the point is - they are hiding behind the rules and guidelines of dressage, those rules make dressage as a sport accepted, if the rules were changed to show what people are really doing, things would not be the same. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Hope that makes some sense, was hard to write what I meant and I don't know that I really did...<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>Disgrace ....<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Rhea on 2006-06-04 10:21:11<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Surly this, what they call ‘Dressage’ puts too much strain on the horses muscles? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Then why do it? It’s causing these poor horses pain just for your own satisfaction! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">These horses should not be allowed to be put though this! They should put a stop to this why they are ahead…. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P>  <HR> </O:P></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>rolkur<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by cherry on 2006-06-04 15:34:38<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This is wrong. These people are being rewarded for cruelty to their horses. I understood dressage came about from exercises designed to stretch, loosen and work horses corectly. This is the antithesis of everything that dressage should stand for.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Dressage in the name of cruelty<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by sandpiper on 2006-06-04 15:45:12<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">These pictures sadden and disgust me. Who was it that decided this training method was the way forward - can someone explain to me why it is necessary? I have never seen horses moving naturally in this position. These beautiful creatures put their trust in us, the rider, and the least we can do for them is treat them with respect. I don't see any respect in these pictures while the poor horse has nowhere to go..<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur should be banned.<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by becca3006 on 2006-06-04 19:23:13<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Rollkur goes agaisnt everything equestrianism is about. A real equestrain would see that these pictures display nothing but pure cruelty.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> when will the FEI wake up?<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by rebel rach on 2006-06-04 21:15:07<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">when will they get off their backsides and stop advocating this practise...makes me sick...<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> <HR>  </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>Abomination<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by ambatt on 2006-06-04 22:05:37<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This practice is simply vile, it is cruel, it is inhumane and it is the antitheses of everything I strive for in creating a partnership with my horses. It ranks along side 'rapping' in the showjuming fraternity as equine abuse. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The FEI should outlaw this practice and inflict the severest penalties for those utilising this method. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Rollkur - Legal Cruelty<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by chablis on 2006-06-05 03:30:13<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Words cannot truly describe such deliberate cruelty towards animals. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Animals who cannot stand up for themselves or say 'No'. Animals who become robots through forced and then learned helplessness. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Those people should be ashamed of themselves for putting those poor animals through such suffering and for what?! A silly ribbon or is it the money... <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">They have made dressage into a war where once it was an art. The horse and rider moving in perfect harmony. Through Rollkur (or what's the 'legal' for cruelty now?), people have achieved a way to shut a horse's personality and joy of life. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I find it incredibly hard to believe that a user of Rollkur then had their horse called a 'Happy Athlete'. I didn't realise that knashing horse teeth and the flashing whites of a horse, under extreme stress, was consider a 'Happy'. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I don't know how these people can sleept at night... <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>As inhumane as it gets<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by rowjames on 2006-06-05 10:41:15<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Why would anyone WANT to reduce these noble and beautiful creatures to such a state? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Is there anything more pointless you can do to a horse? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Horses are athletes: They know how to move with grace and efficiency. Why cannot people learn how to ride without managing to ruin what nature has so miraculously provided? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Please, put a stop to this cruelty.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Dressage<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Smudge on 2006-06-05 11:11:51<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The definition of Dressage according to the dictionary is: <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The guiding of a horse through a series of complex maneuvers by slight movements of the rider's hands, legs, and weight. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This is bullying to cause submission resulting in pain for the horse. Its cruelty and it should not be allowed. How can anyone look at the strain on these horses faces and not be moved to outlaw this practise? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It disgusts me.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> If the boot was on the other foot...<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by mellymoo on 2006-06-05 12:37:28<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Perhaps these riders should have their heads strapped down so they can't breathe and see where they're going, so that they get sore necks and backs. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Those horses look tortured. Dressage is supposed to be something of beauty, showing the partnership between human and horse - all those pictures show is human torturing and dominating horse. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Rollkur is cruel and unnesseccary -good riding will lead to a horse having a good outline and way of going. The riders who use Rollkur are evidently not fit to be on a horse. I count myself as a novice rider, but I can get my horse to go in an outline wearing a headcollar - he does it automatically because he is RIDDEN PROPERLY. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The FEI must stop this barbaric practice; it is surely a win-win situation if they do. The horses will be happier, and only the best riders will win - those who rely on cruelty and gadgets shouldn't be in the showring anyway, but if they stop getting placed (in fact they should be eliminated) they may think twice about the way they treat their horses. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am truly disgusted that we in the Western world claim to love our animals, when this is what happens to them. Shame!!!!!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> :'( I hate rollkur!<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by h4nz horse mad on 2006-06-05 19:07:13<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">i hate it! absolutely hate it! you only have to look at the poor horses to see the pain in there eyes. lets strap the riders heads to their necks and make them work like that. no one would make a human do that would they! so why should we make these beautiful animals suffer. the FEI need to stop this! it surely must be torture! please stop it now... tears come to my eyes when i see the pain and helplessness in the horses eyes :'(<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> <STRONG>This is not dressage.<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by More Carrots Please on 2006-06-05 20:45:48<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Rollkur is abuse of the horse not a training method. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It's aim is to dominate and suppress the horses desires. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Judges should not reward this domination it is an example of a happy partnership. </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Amendment to my post above<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by More Carrots Please on 2006-06-05 20:47:01<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Sorry typing not my best skill. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It is NOT!!!! an example of a happy partnership.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> Arrogant control freaks<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by kahiggins on 2006-06-06 03:14:12<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">In each and every photo the horses looks stressed and trapped. The eyes tell the story of pain and suffering. How can the horse possibly breathe, try it - put your chin on your chest and breathe, l am horrified these people should willigly inflict such cruelty on these beautiful horses. This surely is not dressage, where is the soft, flowing movement, the harmony between horse and rider. If this is the only way these people can control their horse then l suggest they give up riding altogether, it is not for them. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I feel so very sad, l have tears swelling up in my eyes.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> The truth is in the eyes<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by ise@ssl on 2006-06-06 04:31:32<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It makes me ill to look at the eyes of these horses. They are glazed over and blank. How horrible that riders have taken the quest for ribbons to such extremes and have such a disconnect with the animal they use for this selfish quest. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">We MUST stop this horrendous torture. </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Written by CaffreyM on 2006-06-06 14:59:32<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It's a long time since I have seen anything asdistressing as the pictures here.. my own horses are ridden and trained by classical riders who respect the spirit of the horse and never push them beyond their capabilities. If this is what it means to win dressage competitions, I want no part of it. I personally am going to write to each and every sponsor who supports a rider abusing <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="horses in">horses in</ST1:PERSONNAME> this fashion, to let them know that I will never be dealing with their company and products whilst this continues. Those who truly understand classical training would never subject a horse to such cruelty... there was a look of utter despair and hopelessness in those horses.... just what on earth are the FEI thinking to allow this. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Written by kirster2 on 2006-06-06 16:02:07<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am just utterly speechless. It brings me to tears to look at these horses faces and the pain that they are in. I could never do this to my horse. Just looking at the pictures I have a hard time breathing, just as I am sure those poor horses cant as well. This has to be stoped!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> This is not Dressage<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Tnavas on 2006-06-06 20:54:44<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am apalled that the top riders will use this forced and uncomfortable outline on their beautiful horses. What do they believe they achieve? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Each horse is showing it's discomfort in it's eye, they way the mouth is open and lips drawn back the tongue protruding. Where is the softness and harmony of true classical dressage - certainly not in these pictures. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">FEI get yourselves sorted and do not let these riders dictate what is NOT Classical dressage - listen to the majority - we want ROLLKUR BANNED! </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG> <HR> So Sad......this isn't Dressage<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Dark Secret on 2006-06-07 16:46:13<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I can't believe that the FEI doesn't do anything about this, they need to get some balls and have a voice for the horses, it brings tears to my eyes to see the horses being ridden like this. What is this sport coming to? <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Please BAN ROLLKUR .......<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Barbaric Practice<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by TJMoon on 2006-06-08 23:44:14<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">SHAME!!! STOP THIS EVIL!!! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Horses tortured all in the name of glory, blue ribbons and money. Big lick horses, the western pleasure peanut rollers, competitive dressage; they are all the SAME!!! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The judges of this sport should be rollkured themselves!!!! STOP rewarding this abominable riding!!!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Written by shoveltrash on 2006-06-10 01:04:32<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The cruel use of whips & spurs are considered *illegal* in dressage warmup.....ROLLKUR should be too!!!!! it just makes me want to cry - the horses look tortured. not to mention the fact that it reduces a beautiful historic equestrian sport into a PARODY.... <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">i agree with TJMoon, the JUDGES who reward this should be rollkured!!!!! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">null<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Equestrian Images, Dwain & Daniela<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Sanibelfan on 2006-06-10 01:12:04<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">First of all, in the name of equine photography, our utmost respect to capture such images. Images that need no words to describe the pain and suffering these horses must endure. We have taken countless photos of horses, none of which display the amount of sadness and distress that we see in these horses' eyes. In the name of humanity, let's put an end to this incredible abuse. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by Lammont on 2006-06-10 02:42:54<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It took me four tries to get through all the photos, I couldn't really see through my tears. This is a travesty that MUST BE STOPPED. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">If the FEI won't do it for all the obvious reasons, someone IS going to call the animal rights people and right now I am feeling that might not be such a bad thing. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The eyes of those poor horses makes my heart ache, and I really can't comprehend how they would not have that effect on everyone who views them. My sister - a nurse - looked at the colour of the horse's tongues and said it looked like the colour of "dead blood". <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">B]PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE STOP THIS NOW!!![/B]<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> <HR> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by bkoelzer on 2006-06-10 03:12:26<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">This is a travesty and not in the true spirit of dressage. I cannot believe anyone who loves horses could believe rollkur is ok. As the other commentators have said -- all you need to do is look. The suffering is palpable. The FEI must prohibit rollkur. Now.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> <HR> </SPAN><O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><STRONG>Please Take Action!<O:P></O:P></STRONG></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Written by 1 morejump on 2006-06-10 04:42:50<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">To whom it may concern At FEI Headquarters: <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Please rethink your position on Rollkur. Right now the policy seems to be very "wishy washy". It is as though you are trying to please everyone with your answer. Stating that Rollkur is okay when used by professionals is very middle of the road. We need to be thinking about the horses! <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I don't care how many mainstream riders you endorse. There comes a time when we have to say, enough! A horse would never willingly move like this for any extended period of time. There is no suppleness, yielding, or sense of partnership. All I can see are riders trying to over flex because they believe that it will make the horses more supple. It is plain out abuse! I don't care how professional you are, abuse is still abuse. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Please, Sir or Madam, take action, not for the people, or riders, but for the horses, the heart and soul of the sport. Dressage should be beauty in motion and nothing forced is ever beautiful, all rollkur is force. Please help us to fix this problem, for their sake, they have no voice. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"> <HR> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: NL; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Dear Ulrike,</SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: NL; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">I admire your courage,passion and determination.<BR>I am a veterinarian and think that Rollkur does not only represents<BR>an insult<BR>to the nature of the noble horse but also, an appalling disrispect<BR>for<BR>the law of biomechanics and equine physiology .<BR>This said,in many equestrian activities,from racing to show<BR>jumping ,the same types of nonsense are condoned.It hurts me to say<BR>it,there will always be a small (I hope) portion of equine<BR>scientists who choose to protect the human<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s interest over the<BR>good of the horse.I want to hope ignorance plays a bigger role than<BR>malice.<BR>As in many things ,the mighty $$ rules :in the end ,boicotting<BR>FEI,all events and membership could get their attention more<BR>effectively than the fine arguments of century old wisdom.<BR>Kindest regards and thanks,<BR>Alex Bottesini Pullin D.V.M.<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Amateur dressage rider</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Written by kharakterc on 2006-06-02 15:33:14 <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It is a shame that the upper level riders are making this "acceptable". I do feel it is my responsibility not to ride my horse in this way. Certainly not to compliment or encourage others. It is not surprising that the FEI didn<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t just come right out and say that the practice of Rollkur is reprehensible. <BR>This reminds me of a journey in my own life...Midwifery VS Obstetrics /Homebirth VS Institutional Birth. Same arguments used. <BR>1. They are uneducated and don<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t understand what we do. <BR>2. We can guarantee safety (winning?) <BR>3. The hospitals protect the <ST1:PLACE w:st="on">OB</ST1:PLACE><ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s they bring the $$$ (judges standing by...they are invited by the show/riders) <BR>So many parallels and so disturbing. <BR>Will continue to do what I view as right. Even if the Popular/successful crowd chooses rollkur. <BR>If something is not done. The beauty of dressage will be destroyed. The "purist" will not be able to compete successfully..............It is a shame that this beautiful sport and the beautiful animals are being ruined.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment28></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> I thought we were supposed to be a civil</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Written by looby on 2006-06-03 11:27:57 <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">It is with mixed horror and admiration that I read the June issue of Horses For LIfe. Horror at the images and articles contained within, but admiration for the editing team and their contributors. It takes great courage to stand up and disagree with convention and I for one am overjoyed and proud that there are still people in the equestrian world with that courage and strength to say out loud when something is wrong. And oh is this wrong! The practice of Rollkur is so far removed from the principles of dressage and horse training, and yet it had become the accepted norm among winning riders and trainers. To dismiss the classicists as out of date and irrelevant is short sighted and arrogant. While resorting to heavy handed domination of their horses displays a lack of character and an inhumane disregard for their honest and willing equine parnters in the sport. We should all be speaking out, loudly and repeatedly, against this barbaric training method to get it regarded with the same disgust and damnation as other forms of animal cruelty. It ranks for me with bear baiting, cock fighting, dog fighting, the list goes on. It is a sick and selfish world that sees the pain and suffering of an animal as an acceptable means to winning prizes. If this is dressage, I shall confine myself to just hacking out forever more. Congratulations on your wonderful magazine, and thank you for your courage, Lucinda Evans<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment65></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Anne Quaye</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Written by manxie on 2006-06-10 10:21:25 <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I have been arguing for years over the use of double bridles ect for dressage. I argued surely the whole point of dressage is showing how well schooled and balanced you and your horse are as a team. I have ridden my horse a standard bred who likes nothing more than to go faster in a english hackamore for years. To prove a point I also rode in a head collar and bareback. Then I said why can<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t we compete like this? Why do we have to have bits at all if our horse is happier bitless? Why not add a bitless class or a minimal tack class and let the evidense prove it self?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment75></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> "Classical" Dressage?</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Written by indymom on 2006-06-12 16:03:52 <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am an armature dressage rider, having started dressage instruction as a novice rider in the late 1970s. Then, "Classical Dressage" WAS dressage - there was no such thing as "NON-Classical Dressage" - what an oxymoron. Then, showing was considered just a way to check your training under expert eyes. <BR><BR>Though only a low level rider, I rode in clinics with some of the dressage elite. Names like <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">England</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s Molly Sivewright may not be familiar now - she was retired from active competition even then - but at the time she was a world class rider/instructor. <BR><BR>For those still interested in the Classical methods, her many books, among them, <I>Thinking Riding</I> are highly recommended. Unfortunately, it appears that not much "thinking" - as she defined it - is going on in too many dressage arenas these days. <BR><BR>I<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>ve since moved away from my former instructor who would NEVER have taught anything but Classical Dressage with what she used to call "Equestrian Tact." <BR><BR>What in the WORLD has happened! Far from being a means to an end, showing, and WINNING, has become an end in itself, and all thought of correct development of the horse is lost in the win-at-any-cost atmosphere. Any thought of the horse AT ALL has been lost. <BR><BR>It all just makes me sick and sad and mad. I could NEVER treat my beloved horse this way. I would give up dressage completely before I would even think of such a thing. <BR><BR>If we allow these people to intimidate us just because they are <I>winning,</I> we have failed the horses just as badly as they have. <BR><BR></SPAN>Suzanne Moore</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><O:P> <HR>  </O:P> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment71></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Let the Horses Speak</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Written by JBJ on 2006-06-10 23:26:19 <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Rollkur is cruel, sad, and downright disgusting . These so called "riders" don<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t deserve their "good" reputation! Especially the "riders" who make it to the Olympics! And now the judges are starting to accept it! It is horrid! What will the horse world be like in 5 years? It will be sad, unless something is done for the horses . I know one thing: I won<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t ride my horse like those so called "riders" just for a $0.10 ribbon and a "reputation"! Maybe one-day we will be able to stop this horrible cruelty to our such majestic friends, our horses. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment72></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">HORRIBLE!</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Written by jdolan on 2006-06-11 00:37:05 <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Have these pictures been sent to the riders of these horses? How can there be any debate over such an abusive practice? Anatomically, I do not understand how the horse can breathe adequately. Maybe we need to tie these riders<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME> necks down to their chests and have them ride their <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="horses in">horses in</ST1:PERSONNAME> a similar position that they force upon their mounts. </SPAN>FEI---where are you?</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment73></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">DISGUSTING</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Written by lil foxy roxy on 2006-06-11 13:07:29 <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I couldn<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t look at all those pictures, they made me feel SICK! <BR>those poor poor horses! <BR>those riders call themselves "top riders"!?!?!?! "top idiots" more like. <BR><BR>how can judges just let them get away with it? horses can<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t be forced into those positions! i can only imagine how much it must hurt their necks and they will be stuck with it <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment74></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Why???</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Written by patkempe@btinternet.com on 2006-06-12 08:46:57 <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I feel myself crying WHY should these horses be forced into this outline. WHY?? <BR><BR>Where is their nobility, pride and friendship? Certainly not shon in these pictures of torment. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"></P></SPAN></FONT></O:P></SPAN> <P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Dear Dr. Thiel:<BR>Have suggested to Nadja King at Horses For LIFE that a series of alternatives to rollkur be done. It would seem the FEI is resistant to altering its position. Perhaps detailed alternatives in the classical tradition will eventually erode support of this technique.<BR><BR>My Atlas, with details of how rollkur can be avoided by substitution of basic classical riding (illustrated) is now available at<BR></FONT><A href="http://www.zipedu.com/Dressage.html"><FONT size=2>http://www.zipedu.com/Dressage.html</FONT></A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR><FONT size=2>Sincerely, Nancy Nicholson</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=DE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"> <HR> Jennifer Wright<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Rider<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Cruetly - no doubt. Why don't these equestrians remove the nosebands and chains and ride? Is it because they won't be able to control thier mount, because they won't win, becaue it will take too much time to train? Two hundred years ago horses suffered through tight overchecks in driving for high headed results. Seems that the pendulum has now swung the other way. I am sorr y to now see it in the derssage areana. I would love to x-ray these dressage horses mouths and necks. Seems to me they will have bone spurs between their vertebrae and on the abrs of their mouths. How many vets are inspecting dressage horse jaws for signs of tissue damage? What is very disappointing is that the trainers and riders are unable or unwilling to view their training as cruel, just like so many in the "prancing horse industry (Walkers, Saddlebreds, etc.). </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Jennifer Wright Arizona <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2> <HR> Liebe Frau Dr. Thiel,<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Haben Sie vielen Dank für Ihr e-mail, das Sie an die neue FEI Präsidentin, HKH Haya Bint al Hussein geschickt haben. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Es macht mich sehr glücklich, daß Sie sich so sehr für das Wohlergehen unserer Pferde einsetzen. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Machen Sie weiter so; unsere Pferde und alle Anhänger der klassischen und humanen Reiterei sind Ihnen zu großem Dank verpflichtet. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Mit besten Grüßen<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Ihr Walter A. Zettl<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>P.S. Ich habe mir erlaubt, Ihr e-mail  an Herrn von Ziegner weiterzuleiten. Er wird es an die Präsidentin der Xenophon Gesellschaft, Frau Stückelberger schicken. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2> <HR> Sound very much to me like the words of someone paying<BR>lip service to the idea but in reality practicing<BR>something very different.<BR><BR>Anky must has a double who warms up her horses before <BR>competion using a different method than the one that<BR>she teaches at clinics. <HR> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Hi Ulrike,</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I find this all really fascinating, that people can be so deluded and not know.  It seems similar to anorexia nervosa where people are completely convinced by something that is quite wrong.  Amazing.  Anyway, on a different subject, attached is the original paper from my horse vision research.  It is not the best quality as I have scanned it in, buy it is readable I think.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2>Regards,<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2>Alison<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Hi Ulrike,<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I have received both sets of DVD's today.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I have started to watch them and am amazed at how the warm up sessions are being conducted. Absolutely shocking.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Thank you for putting all this together for all of us to se.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT size=2>Kind regards<O:P></O:P></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT size=2>Judy in Oz<O:P></O:P></FONT></P> <P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment76></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <HR> I am in tears</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by dvnEquine on 2006-06-13 01:51:26</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face=Arial> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial>How could anyone think that this is "just another training method"??? Perhaps the stretch itself is not horrifying enough, but the pulling of the head to the chest - the waterskiing on the reins (you have only to look at their legs and knees to know that those riders are HAULING on those reins), the spurring as the head is held in tight. <BR><BR>The FEI must STOP this. It is nothing but a gross caricature of dressage.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment77></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <HR> Apalling!</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by tollertwins on 2006-06-13 02:11:30</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face=Arial> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial>Seeing so MANY horses ridden this way was a total shock! <BR>I have a trainer who is also an FEI judge. I have seen her do this type of riding exactly once - when the horse she was riding for it<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s owner was basically trying to hurt her. She only did it long enough for the horse to start behaving - and she DIDN"T switch gaits, work on bend or anything - just on getting the horse to behave. Also told the owner that it was NOT something to do. I had assumed from this that the discussions about Rolkur may have been something that was done on recalcitrant horses - NOT something done as a standard warm-up.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment78></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <HR> vile abomination of the sport</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by looby on 2006-06-13 14:26:41</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face=Arial> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>It is with mixed horror and admiration that I read the June issue of Horses For LIfe. Horror at the images and articles contained within, but admiration for the editing team and their contributors. It takes great courage to stand up and disagree with convention and I for one am overjoyed and proud that there are still people in the equestrian world with that courage and strength to say out loud when something is wrong. And oh is this wrong! The practice of Rollkur is so far removed from the principles of dressage and horse training, and yet it had become the accepted norm among winning riders and trainers. To dismiss the classicists as out of date and irrelevant is short sighted and arrogant. While resorting to heavy handed domination of their horses displays a lack of character and an inhumane disregard for their honest and willing equine parnters in the sport. We should all be speaking out, loudly and repeatedly, against this barbaric training method to get it regarded with the same disgust and damnation as other forms of animal cruelty. It ranks for me with bear baiting, cock fighting, dog fighting, the list goes on. It is a sick and selfish world that sees the pain and suffering of an animal as an acceptable means to winning prizes. If this is dressage, I shall confine myself to just hacking out forever more. Congratulations on your wonderful magazine, and thank you for your courage, Lucinda Evans<O:P></O:P></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment79></A><A name=akocomment80></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <HR> Who is the FEI trying to please with thi</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by veepee on 2006-06-14 13:30:03</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face=Arial> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>The FEI does not have the power to stop this horrible way of riding <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="horses in">horses in</ST1:PERSONNAME> warm up areas at competition....yet...until rules are put in place to eliminate this horrible way of riding in them. Until then, it is up to the judges of dressage competition horses to ensure that their judging follows closely the FEI guidelines of correct frame or outline being shown by horses being able to work in self-carriage with poll high and nose in front of vertical, with mouths closed - as per official FEI rulings [if these are still relevant guidelines for judges in the FEI rule book? - and if not, why not?]. This is not about perfection…but about riding <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="horses in">horses in</ST1:PERSONNAME> the way that they are meant to be naturally using themselves. <O:P></O:P></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment81></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <HR> The crux of the issue</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by Ann on 2006-06-14 15:34:05</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face=Arial> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">The bottom line to rollkur - and all abusive training techniques in all equine disciplines - is that somehow, for some reason, the physical expression of tension and anxiety in the horse has become more than accepted - it has become the standard. Riders, trainers, and even judges have become unable to see the tension and anxiety that underlies the extravagant movement it causes. Fluid harmonious motion is not as flamboyant as that caused by tension/anxiety. If we don<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t reverse this trend now, the day will come when there are no longer riders or trainers who are able see the beauty of harmony and tranquility within the performing horse. <BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Ann Bradley<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment82></A><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face=Arial> <HR> Ghastly</FONT></SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by Jane on 2006-06-15 23:47:33</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face=Arial> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT face=Arial> <HR align=center width="95%" SIZE=1> </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial size=2>Rollkur is ghastly. Look at the dead eyes of the horses on whom it is used to verify they know it too. <BR><BR>Please investigate and end this attack on honorable sequential training.</FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT face=Arial> <HR> <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Dear Dr. Thiel:<BR>Have suggested to Nadja King at Horses For LIFE that a series of alternatives to rollkur be done. It would seem the FEI is resistant to altering its position. Perhaps detailed alternatives in the classical tradition will eventually erode support of this technique.<BR><BR>My Atlas, with details of how rollkur can be avoided by substitution of basic classical riding (illustrated) is now available at<BR></FONT><A href="http://www.zipedu.com/Dressage.html"><FONT size=2>http://www.zipedu.com/Dressage.html</FONT></A><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR><FONT size=2>Sincerely, Nancy Nicholson</FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=DE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"> <HR> Rider<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Cruetly - no doubt. Why don't these equestrians remove the nosebands and chains and ride? Is it because they won't be able to control thier mount, because they won't win, becaue it will take too much time to train? Two hundred years ago horses suffered through tight overchecks in driving for high headed results. Seems that the pendulum has now swung the other way. I am sorr y to now see it in the derssage areana. I would love to x-ray these dressage horses mouths and necks. Seems to me they will have bone spurs between their vertebrae and on the abrs of their mouths. How many vets are inspecting dressage horse jaws for signs of tissue damage? What is very disappointing is that the trainers and riders are unable or unwilling to view their training as cruel, just like so many in the "prancing horse industry (Walkers, Saddlebreds, etc.). </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Jennifer Wright Arizona <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2> <HR> Liebe Frau Dr. Thiel,<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Haben Sie vielen Dank für Ihr e-mail, das Sie an die neue FEI Präsidentin, HKH Haya Bint al Hussein geschickt haben. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Es macht mich sehr glücklich, daß Sie sich so sehr für das Wohlergehen unserer Pferde einsetzen. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Machen Sie weiter so; unsere Pferde und alle Anhänger der klassischen und humanen Reiterei sind Ihnen zu großem Dank verpflichtet. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Mit besten Grüßen<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>Ihr Walter A. Zettl<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><FONT size=2>P.S. Ich habe mir erlaubt, Ihr e-mail  an Herrn von Ziegner weiterzuleiten. Er wird es an die Präsidentin der Xenophon Gesellschaft, Frau Stückelberger schicken. <O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=DE style="mso-ansi-language: DE"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2> <HR> Sound very much to me like the words of someone paying<BR>lip service to the idea but in reality practicing<BR>something very different.<BR><BR>Anky must has a double who warms up her horses before <BR>competion using a different method than the one that<BR>she teaches at clinics.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Hi Ulrike,</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I find this all really fascinating, that people can be so deluded and not know.  It seems similar to anorexia nervosa where people are completely convinced by something that is quite wrong.  Amazing.  Anyway, on a different subject, attached is the original paper from my horse vision research.  It is not the best quality as I have scanned it in, buy it is readable I think.</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2>Regards,<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2>Alison<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2> <HR> Hi Ulrike,<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I have received both sets of DVD's today.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I have started to watch them and am amazed at how the warm up sessions are being conducted. Absolutely shocking.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Thank you for putting all this together for all of us to se.<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Kind regards<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Judy in Oz<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align: none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1.5pt solid; mso-element: para-border-div"> <P class=MsoNormal style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 1.0pt 0cm; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext 1.5pt"><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>20 6 2006<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></B></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt 36pt; mso-outline-level: 5"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:37 am (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 3.75pt 36pt; mso-outline-level: 3"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>ve seen Dr. Ulrike<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s DVD<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s of rollkur. The horses look like front <BR>heavy teeter-totters from poll to tail with the withers as the <BR>fulcrum. The horses look like they are using their heads and necks as <BR>levers to pull the haunches up, giving the horses an appearance of <BR>tippy-toeing behind. Even on the occasions where the haunches are <BR>somewhat bent, they don<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t appear to be carrying a significant amount <BR>of weight.<B> <O:P></O:P></B></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt 36pt; mso-outline-level: 5"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Dausand<O:P></O:P></SPAN></B></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt 36pt; mso-outline-level: 5"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:13 pm (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>What strikes me in the video clips is that the horses have been totally <BR>stripped of their natural grace. Their movements lack fluidity and <BR>coordination...they look spastic and jerky. I really cannot see how this is possibly able to <BR>win, much less consistently...<BR><BR>Hansen<BR><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #cccccc 3pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666666 2.25pt double; mso-element: para-border-div"> <P class=MsoNormal style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-border-bottom-alt: double #666666 2.25pt; mso-outline-level: 5; mso-border-top-alt: solid #CCCCCC 3.0pt"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:14 am (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-border-bottom-alt: double #666666 2.25pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid #CCCCCC 3.0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>can I ask please. who has seen the DVD<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s made by <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="Ulrike Thiel">Ulrike thiel</ST1:PERSONNAME>?<BR>I have and I am absolutely blown away at the time span these people <BR>are doing rollkuer. No transitions, just blatant rollkuer, abuse by <BR>hands and spurs.I knew that they were doing rollkuer, but when you <BR>actually watch these videos..............and then you know it is <BR>ACTUAL time....sickening.<BR><BR>Judy in Oz<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-border-bottom-alt: double #666666 2.25pt; mso-outline-level: 5; mso-border-top-alt: solid #CCCCCC 3.0pt"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:53 am (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 3.75pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-border-bottom-alt: double #666666 2.25pt; mso-outline-level: 3; mso-border-top-alt: solid #CCCCCC 3.0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Unfortunately, just because the horses placing highly "are" being placed <BR>highly, does not mean that they are going correctly - unfortunately the <BR>"WOW" factor is far important than correct riding - and wealth, <BR>celebrity status helps too!<BR>I only hope that Klaus Balkenhol and "Xenophon" are strong and dilligent <BR>enough to help change the way judges are looking at the horse and rider <BR>combinations in front of them - so that correct classical training is <BR>valued above all else.<BR><BR>Maarit<BR><BR> <HR> <BR>I think this is precisely it, the judges are accustomed to anxiety<BR>and tension, hence the whow factor when you see those competitors do<BR> extensions , everyone just about is blown away, so the judges are no<BR>different. the rules have not changed ...but the mental image has,<BR>because almost no one will have a horse at high level moving the<BR>right way .<BR>Judy in oz<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><B><O:P></O:P></B></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-border-bottom-alt: double #666666 2.25pt; mso-outline-level: 5; mso-border-top-alt: solid #CCCCCC 3.0pt"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:06 am (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B> <P></P></DIV> <DIV style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #cccccc 3pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-TOP: 2pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666666 2.25pt double; mso-element: para-border-div"> <P class=MsoNormal style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; mso-padding-alt: 2.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-border-bottom-alt: double #666666 2.25pt; mso-border-top-alt: solid #CCCCCC 3.0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>Well, I will go as far as saying that to me, the WOW factor is not <BR>there. I say WOW when I see a well ridden happy horse with a happy rider <BR>on top, both in harmony with each other.<BR><BR> <HR> Barbara<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt 36pt; mso-outline-level: 5"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:59 am (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>My wow factor is also the horse moving nicely , pushing from behind <BR>with ease .Horse and rider a happy combination, we all know what that <BR>should look like, why don<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t the judges??<BR><BR>Sadly the wow factor is mostly high stepping , electric horses , <BR>strutting their stuff.<BR><BR>Judy in Oz<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt 36pt; mso-outline-level: 5"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:55 pm (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>---I wondering if the supposed benefits of using the roll kur--<BR>basically comes down to:<BR><BR>if you keep the horse in a tense/awkward position<BR>... it then...<BR>will be relieved and perform better once you return to correct <BR>position<BR><BR>--kind of an unfortunate application/interpretation of, say, <BR>collecting on the short end of the arena and then taking a diagonal <BR>with that built up energy--released in to a lengthening. Collecting <BR>in preparation for release into extension is a common <BR>natural/effective excercise. High degrees of collection or any <BR>strenuous work is -traditionally--- kept brief and followed imediatly <BR>followed by some kind of release/reward/relaxation------over time you <BR>build stamina to be able to perform challenging programs. <BR><BR>I just really think it<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s unfortunate the "champions of the rollkur" <BR>do not pause to think if it is realy the position of the rollkur that <BR>gives them results----or that maybe the horse performs tests well <BR>afterwards because it finds itself so "relieved" and "comfortable" in <BR>the correct classical position and movements demanded in the <BR>tests??????<BR><BR></FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia"><FONT size=2>Just my thoughts -L<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt 36pt; mso-outline-level: 5"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:50 am (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 140%"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR>Good learning material I think.<BR>Judy in z<BR><BR><BR> <HR> I<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>ve seen Dr. Ulrike<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s DVD<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s of rollkur. The horses look like front<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>heavy teeter-totters from poll to tail with the withers as the<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>fulcrum. The horses look like they are using their heads and necks as<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>levers to pull the haunches up, giving the horses an appearance of<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>tippy-toeing behind. Even on the occasions where the haunches are<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>somewhat bent, they don<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t appear to be carrying a significant amount<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>of weight.<BR><SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt 36pt; mso-outline-level: 5"><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:51 am (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>m not sure the concept of "linear progress" can be applied to any human/animal training endeavor, except maybe by charting things in retrospect. It seems to me to go in fits and starts, with a moment of splendid success followed by an utter failure to connect. "Huh?" is a human word that horses can just about pronounce, and they certainly are able to convey the idea, even if they don<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t make the sound. (g)<O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR><FONT size=2>if you keep the horse in a tense/awkward position<BR>... it then...<BR>will be relieved and perform better once you return to correct <BR>position<BR><BR>I think you make a good point. I read an article years ago that measured <BR>anxiety levels <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="in horses">in horses</ST1:PERSONNAME> in both training and showing scenarios. What they <BR>found was most horses were much calmer when actually showing, and their tension <BR>was greatest in training. That information was interpreted 2 ways. One <BR>group - mainly the trainers - thought the fact that their horses were showing <BR>well meant their training was good. But the other group interpreted it to mean <BR>the horses had learned that the show ring was a "safe place", so they could <BR>actually relax and enjoy showing. I wondered if this phenomenon was somehow <BR>tied in with the group that rated Anky<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s horse as the "happiest" horse? <BR>Either that, or they wouldn<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t know a happy horse if it bit <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>em in the butt... :o)<BR>Ann<BR><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"> <HR> <BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN> <P></P> <DIV style="; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; BORDER-TOP: #cccccc 3pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN-LEFT: 36pt; ; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666666 2.25pt double; mso-element: para-border-div"> <P class=MsoNormal style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm; PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 15pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0cm; mso-padding-alt: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm; mso-border-bottom-alt: double #666666 2.25pt; mso-outline-level: 5; mso-border-top-alt: solid #CCCCCC 3.0pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:12 pm (PST) <O:P></O:P></SPAN></B></P></DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-FAMILY: Georgia; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>"if you keep the horse in a tense/awkward position<BR>... it then...<BR>will be relieved and perform better once you return to correct<BR>position"<BR><BR>I don<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t believe the horse "ever" get the "correct" position for more <BR>that a millisecond- the back is usually hollow with croup high, third <BR>vertebrae being the highest point with back legs lifting like they had <BR>electric prods - with no real engagement - anyway thats what I see.<BR>Maarit<BR><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><O:P></O:P></FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Dr. Thiel,<BR><BR>I<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>ve been watching your Rollkur videos, and I would like to know if you would mind my posting a few links to said videos (with your credit) along with a petition that I am drafting? The purpose of the petition is to draw attention to the abuse of this practice (if you would like to call it a practice at all) and the damage it does to the outlook of the horses. The goal is ultimately to present this petition along with the information contained in your videos and a few other select websites to the United States Equestrian Foundation (USAE), United States Dressage Federation (USDF), and the FEI as evidence that this topic needs to be further explored and stopped.<BR><BR>Please get back to me as soon as you can,<BR>Thank you!<BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">Jamie A. Stine<O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt 36pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 121%"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P><FONT size=2> </FONT></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Dear Ulrike,</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><FONT size=2>I received a phone call from </FONT></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Alex Atock M.R.C.V.S.<BR>Secretary<BR>FEI Welfare Subcommittee.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">He requested 8 copies of your DVD after reading a mail</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I sent to the FEI. He has been given the job to look into </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">things... I cannot be more pleased that the work you have</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">done is now rewarded by people in the veterinary profession,</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">linked with the FEI who seem to also understand that the </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">welfare of horses is at stake. </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><FONT size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I will send him the copies requested as soon as the local computer shop can make them. <HR> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> </SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Thank you so much for putting this information out there. I am a dressage instructor in <ST1:CITY w:st="on">Phoenix</ST1:CITY> <ST1:STATE w:st="on">AZ</ST1:STATE> and have trained in <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Germany</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION> for 2 years. I learned many things over the years I have studied dressage, but the two that most apparently address this training method are 1)you must consistently train your horse as you will ride him in competition, and 2)in dressage, if it doesn<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t look right, it isn<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>t. I recently responded to an inquiry from one of my students:<BR><BR>"Hyperflexion is an extreme over flexion of the vertebrae in the neck, either down, to the right or to the left. It<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s supposed benefits are to supple the horse, however when it has been brought to its proponents attention that it is actually creating a balance which is decidedly opposite of that we are trying to create in dressage (we like to encourage the horse to bear more weight on his hindquarters as opposed to allowing, or in this case forcing, the horse to fall on the forehand) it was then said by the users of hyperflexion that this was a means of dealing with submission issues. And it would, as it creates a situation where the horse is out of balance and not allowed to see ahead of him because of his optical anatomy. The horse then becomes submissive because of his fear, and thus tense.....which is also something we are ultimately trying NOT to create in a dressage mount. So, you see why the <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>classisists<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME> might be down on it. I am, as what I have seen of it goes against everything I have been taught about dressage."<BR><BR>After seeing these video clips, it appears that I only scratched the surface in my response to my student. I have a difficult time visualizing how a less experienced rider than the ones that you have featured could possibly create more discomfort or throw his mount more off balance. I will be having all of my students review the videos you have posted on You Tube.<BR><BR></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black">With Regards,<BR>Justine Wilson </SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black"> <HR> <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment83></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Abuse of body and soul</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by Janna on 2006-06-19 09:38:07</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Dressage is meant to show the pride, grace and elegance of a horse. <BR>Well trained, happy and sound. <BR><BR>These horses <ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on" ProductID="have in">have in</ST1:PERSONNAME> no way at all, anything to do with that. <BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment84></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Incorrect</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by bseizert on 2006-06-19 23:59:50</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Not only are these methods obviously cruel and insensitive to the horses, they go against several of the most basic and important aspects of dressage: harmony, balance, impulsion, engagement, and self-carriage. No one can claim to be a "top rider" while disregarding these most important characteristics of dressage.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment85></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> BAN ROLKUR</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by sallison627 on 2006-06-23 00:25:58</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">I am sick to my stomach after viewing those photos. The object of dressage should be the <U>harmonious</U>physical development and ability of the horse. This technique is horrifying! <BR>Shame on the FEI for rewarding top riders who use this technique. Many of these photos were obviously taken in the warm-up arena for all to see. (judges as well) It<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s time to ban this from our sport and penalize all riders/trainers who are seen using it!<O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment86></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Please stop this ugly horror!</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by lil on 2006-06-23 01:03:07</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">FEI, <BR>Please take a GOOD look at this practice. Ban it and its practitioners <BR>from the ring and the whole of what I once thought a lovely riding technique, that honored both horse and rider. <O:P></O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><A name=akocomment87></A><B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <HR> Set a good example</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"><BR></SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 8.5pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Written by carol ann on 2006-06-23 02:02:38</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> <O:P></O:P></SPAN> <P></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"><O:P> </O:P></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Young riders who look up to the international competitors as an example of the best in dressage are being sent a dangerous message. How are young riders to learn true dressage when this is the sorry example that is presented to them? Let<ST1:PERSONNAME w:st="on">'</ST1:PERSONNAME>s quit makeing excuses , and glossing over the true nature of this horror. 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